Saturday, July 20, 2013

LLC solo 401k plan for both spouses | self-employment activity



BACKGROUND: Here is what we are trying to do.  I used to work for a company that is now giving me the opportunity to receive my pension in a lump sum now.  I'd like to take advantage of this opportunity by setting up a solo 401k and investing it in real estate.  The only way I can do that now and not get hit with penalty taxes is to roll it over into a retirement plan such as a solo 401k plan.

I did some research which eventually led me to MySolo401k.

My husband has an LLC that is in his name only that he currently does his real estate business through.  He has a business partner that he works with but is not set-up on this LLC.  After doing research, I think the Solo 401k plan is going to be the more flexible option that better meets our needs.  Our needs include:

- We want to be able to have direct control of the money for investing, especially in real estate

- We want to minimize or eliminate any payments that come from the transactions around these investments

- I currently contribute to my current employer's 401K (it's not a self-directed 401k plan so it should be ok).

- My husband and I did not have any current plans to contribute to this 401K, but I like the option.

- I want both of us to legally have access to the money which is why we may need to set-up 2 plans.  

- I'd like to set-up our solo 401k bank account(s) with Capital One.

I'm ready to move forward but still fuzzy on some steps.  I have a deadline for turning my distribution paperwork back to my former employer and to request that they transfer/rollover the pension to a solo 401k, so I do have to set this up sooner than later.

RESPONSE

First, the solo 401k plan that we offer permits for investing in alternative investments such as real estate in addition to promissory notes, precious metals, tax liens and private company shares, to name a few.

Second, the retirement plan portability rules allow for the transfer/rollover of pension plan funds to a 401k plan including a solo 401k plan. Therefore, your former employer’s distribution paperwork will contain the rollover/transfer option to another qualified plan such as a solo 401k plan.

Third, as IRS Solo 401k rules detail, a solo 401k can be setup for the business owner and his or her spouse. However, in order for the business owner’s spouse to contribute to the solo 401k plan, he or she would also need to perform business activity for the self-employed business (in this case the LLC).  As such, the solo 401k plan would be setup in the name of the self-employed business (in your case the LLC). So if the name of the LLC is XZY LLC, the name of the plan would be XYZ LLC Solo 401k Trust. Further, your spouse and or both of you can be listed as solo 401k trustees. That way you can both make decisions on behalf of the plan.

Moreover, separate bank accounts would be setup for each of you if both will make contributions and/or transfer funds into the solo 401k plan. Therefore, both solo 401k bank accounts would be setup as a follows.

XYZ LLC Solo 401k Trust F.B.O. Jane Doe

XYZ LLC Solo 401k Trust F.B.O. John Doe

As you can see, it is the same solo 401k plan but two separate bank accounts for holding each participant’s contributions and or rollover funds, and investment gains.


Please let me know what you think.

Thanks a lot, Kathy in Michigan

Monday, July 15, 2013

My self-directed 401k investment strategies will be to flip cars and real estate



QUESTION: My self-directed 401k investment strategies will be to flip cars and real estate. Do I need to hire property managers to maintain arm's length transactions? 


ANSWER: With respect to real estate transactions, as the self-directed 401k trustee, you can manage the properties, just not get compensated for doing so.

As far as flipping cars, the self-directed 401k can invest passively in a company (e.g., a car dealership); however, it may subject the investment earnings to UBIT. Further, you cannot be the manager/president of the car dealership company nor an employee as you would fall under the 401k disqualified party umbrella.

Use solo 401k funds to buy a Mobile Home Park



QUESTION 1: If we were to purchase a Mobile Home Park for straight-out cash from our Solo 401k plan account, can we later refinance with a bank mortgage or a HELOC type loan to pull equity out of the property?

ANSWER: You cannot purchase property including a Mobile Home Park from your own solo 401k because you are a disqualified party.

QUESTION 2: Are there any concerns about financing in this way versus up-front?

ANSWER: Yes the concern is that it is a prohibited transaction!

QUESTION 3: Are there any fees or restrictions?

ANSWER: Yes as a prohibited transaction can result from even a partial purchase of an asset from the solo 401k by a disqualified person such as the solo 401k trustee.

Note - the main reason for obtaining financing after the fact is timing to close the loan.

Regards,

Lisa in Virginia